Saliva is a band that has proven time and time again that they are driven and relevant. Their career spans 20 years of greatness and now, ten albums in, they just keep giving us amazing music. The band consists of vocalist, Bobby Amaru; founding member and guitarist, Wayne Swinney; their newest member on bass, Brad Stewart; and drummer, Paul Crosby. Their recent decision to add Brad as a permanent fixture has solidified their lineup and strengthened their union. With the new album already getting tons of hype and recognition, they are ready to get out there and show the fans that the wait has been worth it in a big ass way. Bobby has a powerful vocal that leads us on a path of pain, learning to overcome and redemtpion through the lyrics and tone that he so passionately delivers flawlessly. Wayne and Brad back him up with rythmic riffs and limitless chords while Brad that create the exact mood needed for each word. The Drummer, Paul, sets it off with his soft backbeats and reinforced accents. The new album, Love, Lies, and Therapy, is, in one word, outstanding. It has heart and emotion. Through small talk about soda comparisons, Bobby got his point across to me today. The point is…Saliva’s music has always kicked ass. Saliva’s music continues to kick ass today, and Saliva’s music will never stop kicking ass. Pointblank and period.
Interview with Bobby Amaru – vocalist/Saliva
By: Leslie Elder Rogers
Metal Exiles: Saliva has been around now for 20 years and now the release of the 10th album, Love, Lies, and Therapy is about to drop on July 1st. You should be feeling pretty damn good right about now.
Bobby: I am actually it's always an exciting time when we have a record coming out and you spent months of hard work on it and you want it to be taken well.
Meal Exiles: You’ve been with the band now about 5 years, during that time, how do you feel the band has grown or changed?
Bobby: I would say for me in the band, I can't really speak for the other guys, but I do know that they feel like there's a renewed energy and it seems to be a little more positive around here than it used to be. From when I got into the band until now there's definitely a big difference. I feel like the energy is that much better. Stepping into the new singer spot is harder to fill then being a drummer or something. Now it has become like my band, and it's a lot more locked in, and I would say a lot more together then we were when I first started with the band.
Metal Exiles: Between the bands Burn Season, Amaru and now Saliva, what have been some of the differences you've seen positive or negative and was it easy for you to transition from drummer to vocalist?
Bobby: I would say it's easier to play drums but coming into the band there were different styles that the band had, heavy stuff, rappy stuff, and melodic stuff, so when you see us live and you see the set, there so many different elements that we bring to the table. So vocally I had to push myself and I think it came with touring. You get out there and you just get thrown to the wolves so you just have to do it and you have to be confident and kind of prove yourself. It's always fun doing that. I still enjoy that to this day. I always feel like we’re still proving that we still exist as a rock band so yeah as a vocalist, I had to push to get some of those elements out but now it feels like we’re lot more present then we were five years ago.
Metal Exiles: How long does it usually take to write the lyrics and create and polish the music that will emphasize the lyrics with the impact you desire?
Bobby: Being on tour and having to make a record at the same time is kind of tough but I would say that some songs came out in 5 minutes, vocally or lyrically or something. I’m overthinking that, meaning that one song could’ve come right out. I started writing it and it came right out in the studio but then there’s one that I might’ve had just the chorus to and then I had to go and do the verses and stuff. I never sit down with a pen and paper and start from the first word. I never really do that. It’s just whatever hits me. A verse might hit me first or a chorus might hit me first, melodically. I will say this though. I noticed that all the lyrics on a lot of the songs when I was done, you get the mixes back and I started thinking about what the fuck am I talking about? What the fuck am I even saying? Then I started to realize that “holy shit dude. That is what I’ve been going through”. I’d been going this relationship thing for a couple of years, infidelities and stuff, cheating this, and cheating that between both of us and it totally made sense on a lot of the songs and it made sense with the concept of the album title as well.
Metal Exiles: It is being said that with Love, Lies, and Therapy, you are “digging deep, transforming yourselves into a refurbished rock band that takes the best from your impressive legacy and launches into a promising present”. What does that statement mean to you?
Bobby: I think it says it all. The band was never a rap-rock band. Some people put the band in that category and yeah, they had some songs…I mean, “Click Click Boom” came out in 2001, in the prime rap-rock market but then they immediately had songs that were like night and day, the more melodic stuff and the more heavy stuff along with the rappy stuff. So I think that with this record, there’s elements of all of it. “Go Big or Go Home” has some rap stuff in it but that’s the only song like that. I don’t think we can consider the Michael Jackson cover rappy or maybe you can but we don’t really think about the kind of style that we have to be or want to be. We just write good songs. We go in and create and try to create the best songs possible. I think that’s all any band tries to do. They have their own sound. They have their own sound and they keep doing it. If it works, it works. Everybody has an opinion on things. They’re either gonna like it or they’re gonna hate it. You can’t please everybody. You either like Coke or you like Pepsi.
Metal Exiles: Along with the typical, fast pace, hard hitting, wow factor songs that incorporate awesome riffs and amazing vocal strength, there are songs that lean more to the ballad style which steadies the pace of the album giving it a good variety and mixture of melody and power like “Unshatter Me” and “Breakdown”. Do you feel that having such a diverse mixture of musical content will attract more fans?
Bobby: Yeah those songs are definitely must haves in my opinion. That’s the side of the band that people need to see. I do believe it’ll attract more fans…that if the message is there even with people who are into the harder stuff, yes. Sometimes you just can’t avoid it if it’s good. If you really like the message and what the song is about, it’s for everybody unless you’re just fucking closed-minded. Some people are just closed-minded and want their Slayer man, and that’s that. I can’t be mad at that so…
Metal Exiles: You did an absolutely amazing cover of Michael Jackson’s “They Don’t Even Care About Us”. I can’t lie when I say it’s one of my favorites on the album. What made you choose this particular song to cover?
Bobby: I always liked it. People have been asking me if it was because of all the crazy politics stuff that’s going on. I wanted to do the song 4 years ago when I got in the band. We just never got around to doing it. I’m glad that at that time we didn’t because we probably would’ve fucked it up even more. I definitely, going in the studio, was able to sit with it and create around with it. That was the thing. I took Michael Jackson’s vocal and I put all the music around it. His vocal was heavy enough the way it was. It’s so cool. I said “I’m gonna do it just like this or we’re not gonna do it”. I wasn’t gonna sugar coat any of his vocals and do this here or that there. I wanted to do it exactly like the way he did, the best that I could. Obviously with Michael Jackson, no one compares to Michael Jackson.
Metal Exiles: It was a very strong cover. I know a lot of people don’t get into cover music or cover bands but I personally like to hear what people can do with a song that may have at one time been already popular. Think about “The Sound of Silence”, I mean holy shit, right?
Bobby: That’s kind of like one of these songs too. I mean who the hell would think to do “The Sound of Silence”? The fact that they did that was ballsy and good because not many bands could do that and pull that off. That’s kind of the way I feel about this song. The reason that no one has probably ever done it is because it’s fucking hard to do it and pull it off like that. I love the song though and I think it turned out good. It’s gonna be a hard one to learn live, but…you have to take the chance.
Metal Exiles: If you had to choose your favorite song on the album, what would it be and why?
Bobby: My favorite song on the record…man, that’s a tough one. I haven’t really thought of it. I started having a new favorite one as they would get done. I mean this album took almost a year so I would say, I do like “Unshatter Me”. It’s a really, really great song. I like “Breakdown” too. I would say “Loneliest Note” means a good bit to me because it’s a song that I’ve had for about 10 years. I wrote it about 10 years ago and played it for Wayne and he was like “Dude, we gotta do that. Whatever that was that I heard, you gotta do that on the record”. So that’s a good one as well, but “Bitch Like You” is really cool. There’s a lot of cool songs so I can’t say that I have a favorite ONE. I guess that’s not a bad thing.
Metal Exiles: What song do you think will get the most fan reaction live?
Bobby: Well, we’ve been playing “Tragic Kind of Love”, our first single and we’ve been playing “Trust”. Both have been going over extremely well actually. “Trust” has a little more bounce and dance to it I think to where it’s been going off a little more but both songs have been going good so far.
Metal Exiles: Saliva added powerful bassist in Brad Stewart to the permanent lineup. I know the two of you already had a relationship because of Amaru but how easy was his transition to Saliva?
Bobby: Yeah, well, you know, Brad actually filled in for Dave about 7 or 8 years ago when Dave had a baby and was absent for a few weeks. Brad went in and filled in for him then. So, it was easy because he knew a lot of the songs already and Brad is just an all-around really great dude. Not just on bass but personality and everything. Brad could be anyone’s best friend. He’s the coolest dude. We’ve always gotten along. I’ve known him forever. He was in Shinedown and he did Fuel for the past five years.
Metal Exiles: You produced the album with the help of the extremely talented, Nolan Neal and former bandmate Damien Starkey. What made you choose them to aid in the production and how did their contributions to the production of the album enhance the outcome?
Bobby: Well, I would say it’s kind of a give credit where credit is due kind of thing. With Damien, he does a lot of TV music and stuff and I was doing a lot of that before I got in the band too. He lives here in Jacksonville so we worked on the song “Refuse to Lose”, so that’s the song that he and I did. It’s a cool song. A cool, heavy song. It’s got that ESPN sports vibe going on. Then with Nolan, I’ve known Nolan for many years. He’s extremely talented and underrated, I think. He just hasn’t really been heard that often. He’s the only guy that I’ve known that has had 3 record deals and not one song come out through the label. It’s crazy. He’s a good dude. He’s a great song writer. There were a few songs that he and I worked on and we collaborated together and he ended up producing a good bit of it as well.
Metal Exiles: Being that you have inside experience, why do you think Saliva has been so successful and continues to thrive?
Bobby: Because what else are we gonna do? There’s nothing else to do. We have no choice. I think it’s because there is a demand. People actually still come to shows and we still like playing music at shows and rocking to people. I feel like we still have something to prove every night that we go on stage. I think that these days you gotta be a good live band for people to get it. I think your music and your records are a big deal but at the end of the day, when they go see you live and you suck, it’s like “Oh wow, we know that vocalist man, he must’ve taken a hundred and ninety million takes on that record”. People think like that. They’ll be your fan and then they’ll be your worst critic immediately so you gotta be a good live band to stay alive in my opinion. That’s the way it’s always been.
Metal Exiles: Since signing with Universal, what changes have been made to create the “reenergized” impact on the direction of the band?
Bobby: We had about 4 or 5 songs that were done and our attorney had sent them to a few people and one of them was Jaime Feldman at Universal. It’s funny. I’d spoken with him years ago, when he was a Capitol, about signing the band Amaru that I was in. He had a heavy interest in that but it never happened for some reason. I don’t remember what it was. So, it was just strange when I saw who we were gonna talk to at Universal, I knew the name somehow and then we kind of figured it out on the phone. It was cool though, he told us “We like these songs. We’d like to move forward. We’re not gonna give you a million dollars or any of that shit but let’s do a deal and let’s put this thing out”. For us, we felt like he was just onboard immediately and that’s what we liked. We weren’t looking for a bunch of cash. We were just looking for a good home that has proven itself over and over again with artists and breaking artists. It was like “Do you wanna go with Coca-Cola or do you wanna go with freakin’ Diet-Rite”? That’s kind of the way it is. The last label we were with, you know, a lot of people didn’t even know we’d put a record out. We did, but it was pulled immediately because the label we were with, Rum Bum Records wasn’t really a label. It was a guy that had a shit ton of money, who gave us a shit ton of money, and he pretty much blew off every distribution call that we had set up for him. Finally, we had a manager set it all up and the record came up for two weeks or something like that. The whole thing was just a pretty messed up situation for sure but moving past that, we’re done with that and we knew we wanted somebody that knew what the hell they were doing. That meant more to us than money, meaning advance, up-front money. Once again, we have something to prove so why would we sacrifice and just take money and say fuck- it, whatever, we don’t care. We’re happy and content the way we are. No! We still have something to prove and we definitely want to be heard. We want to get over seas and do international stuff as well and I don’t think Diet-Rite can do that for us.
Metal Exiles: Your new album will be celebrated and promoted during your upcoming tour that begins in July, along with tried and true songs that made Saliva who they are today. Would you like to add anything about the album or the tour before we close today?
Bobby: Well, we’re definitely touring quite a bit for the rest of the year with that tour in August to October, which is about 3 months straight. We are stoked about it. The single hit radio. We appreciate all the fans that have stuck by the band and that continue to do so. We’ve got loyal fans and it’s definitely a pleasure making music for people who give a shit.
Metal Exiles: Well, we do for sure. Music is the heart and soul of a lot of people and gets a lot of people through a lot of bad times, especially albums such as Love, Lies, and Therapy that incorporate songs about your personal experiences. It’s a healing album. It’s about the experience and the healing process and people can thank music for that. People can thank people like you for singing those lyrics; and sing them so emotionally, and with passion and tone that draws you in. I personally appreciate it and thank you for the music and the interview today.
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Interview with Bobby Amaru – vocalist/Saliva
By: Leslie Elder Rogers
Metal Exiles: Saliva has been around now for 20 years and now the release of the 10th album, Love, Lies, and Therapy is about to drop on July 1st. You should be feeling pretty damn good right about now.
Bobby: I am actually it's always an exciting time when we have a record coming out and you spent months of hard work on it and you want it to be taken well.
Meal Exiles: You’ve been with the band now about 5 years, during that time, how do you feel the band has grown or changed?
Bobby: I would say for me in the band, I can't really speak for the other guys, but I do know that they feel like there's a renewed energy and it seems to be a little more positive around here than it used to be. From when I got into the band until now there's definitely a big difference. I feel like the energy is that much better. Stepping into the new singer spot is harder to fill then being a drummer or something. Now it has become like my band, and it's a lot more locked in, and I would say a lot more together then we were when I first started with the band.
Metal Exiles: Between the bands Burn Season, Amaru and now Saliva, what have been some of the differences you've seen positive or negative and was it easy for you to transition from drummer to vocalist?
Bobby: I would say it's easier to play drums but coming into the band there were different styles that the band had, heavy stuff, rappy stuff, and melodic stuff, so when you see us live and you see the set, there so many different elements that we bring to the table. So vocally I had to push myself and I think it came with touring. You get out there and you just get thrown to the wolves so you just have to do it and you have to be confident and kind of prove yourself. It's always fun doing that. I still enjoy that to this day. I always feel like we’re still proving that we still exist as a rock band so yeah as a vocalist, I had to push to get some of those elements out but now it feels like we’re lot more present then we were five years ago.
Metal Exiles: How long does it usually take to write the lyrics and create and polish the music that will emphasize the lyrics with the impact you desire?
Bobby: Being on tour and having to make a record at the same time is kind of tough but I would say that some songs came out in 5 minutes, vocally or lyrically or something. I’m overthinking that, meaning that one song could’ve come right out. I started writing it and it came right out in the studio but then there’s one that I might’ve had just the chorus to and then I had to go and do the verses and stuff. I never sit down with a pen and paper and start from the first word. I never really do that. It’s just whatever hits me. A verse might hit me first or a chorus might hit me first, melodically. I will say this though. I noticed that all the lyrics on a lot of the songs when I was done, you get the mixes back and I started thinking about what the fuck am I talking about? What the fuck am I even saying? Then I started to realize that “holy shit dude. That is what I’ve been going through”. I’d been going this relationship thing for a couple of years, infidelities and stuff, cheating this, and cheating that between both of us and it totally made sense on a lot of the songs and it made sense with the concept of the album title as well.
Metal Exiles: It is being said that with Love, Lies, and Therapy, you are “digging deep, transforming yourselves into a refurbished rock band that takes the best from your impressive legacy and launches into a promising present”. What does that statement mean to you?
Bobby: I think it says it all. The band was never a rap-rock band. Some people put the band in that category and yeah, they had some songs…I mean, “Click Click Boom” came out in 2001, in the prime rap-rock market but then they immediately had songs that were like night and day, the more melodic stuff and the more heavy stuff along with the rappy stuff. So I think that with this record, there’s elements of all of it. “Go Big or Go Home” has some rap stuff in it but that’s the only song like that. I don’t think we can consider the Michael Jackson cover rappy or maybe you can but we don’t really think about the kind of style that we have to be or want to be. We just write good songs. We go in and create and try to create the best songs possible. I think that’s all any band tries to do. They have their own sound. They have their own sound and they keep doing it. If it works, it works. Everybody has an opinion on things. They’re either gonna like it or they’re gonna hate it. You can’t please everybody. You either like Coke or you like Pepsi.
Metal Exiles: Along with the typical, fast pace, hard hitting, wow factor songs that incorporate awesome riffs and amazing vocal strength, there are songs that lean more to the ballad style which steadies the pace of the album giving it a good variety and mixture of melody and power like “Unshatter Me” and “Breakdown”. Do you feel that having such a diverse mixture of musical content will attract more fans?
Bobby: Yeah those songs are definitely must haves in my opinion. That’s the side of the band that people need to see. I do believe it’ll attract more fans…that if the message is there even with people who are into the harder stuff, yes. Sometimes you just can’t avoid it if it’s good. If you really like the message and what the song is about, it’s for everybody unless you’re just fucking closed-minded. Some people are just closed-minded and want their Slayer man, and that’s that. I can’t be mad at that so…
Metal Exiles: You did an absolutely amazing cover of Michael Jackson’s “They Don’t Even Care About Us”. I can’t lie when I say it’s one of my favorites on the album. What made you choose this particular song to cover?
Bobby: I always liked it. People have been asking me if it was because of all the crazy politics stuff that’s going on. I wanted to do the song 4 years ago when I got in the band. We just never got around to doing it. I’m glad that at that time we didn’t because we probably would’ve fucked it up even more. I definitely, going in the studio, was able to sit with it and create around with it. That was the thing. I took Michael Jackson’s vocal and I put all the music around it. His vocal was heavy enough the way it was. It’s so cool. I said “I’m gonna do it just like this or we’re not gonna do it”. I wasn’t gonna sugar coat any of his vocals and do this here or that there. I wanted to do it exactly like the way he did, the best that I could. Obviously with Michael Jackson, no one compares to Michael Jackson.
Metal Exiles: It was a very strong cover. I know a lot of people don’t get into cover music or cover bands but I personally like to hear what people can do with a song that may have at one time been already popular. Think about “The Sound of Silence”, I mean holy shit, right?
Bobby: That’s kind of like one of these songs too. I mean who the hell would think to do “The Sound of Silence”? The fact that they did that was ballsy and good because not many bands could do that and pull that off. That’s kind of the way I feel about this song. The reason that no one has probably ever done it is because it’s fucking hard to do it and pull it off like that. I love the song though and I think it turned out good. It’s gonna be a hard one to learn live, but…you have to take the chance.
Metal Exiles: If you had to choose your favorite song on the album, what would it be and why?
Bobby: My favorite song on the record…man, that’s a tough one. I haven’t really thought of it. I started having a new favorite one as they would get done. I mean this album took almost a year so I would say, I do like “Unshatter Me”. It’s a really, really great song. I like “Breakdown” too. I would say “Loneliest Note” means a good bit to me because it’s a song that I’ve had for about 10 years. I wrote it about 10 years ago and played it for Wayne and he was like “Dude, we gotta do that. Whatever that was that I heard, you gotta do that on the record”. So that’s a good one as well, but “Bitch Like You” is really cool. There’s a lot of cool songs so I can’t say that I have a favorite ONE. I guess that’s not a bad thing.
Metal Exiles: What song do you think will get the most fan reaction live?
Bobby: Well, we’ve been playing “Tragic Kind of Love”, our first single and we’ve been playing “Trust”. Both have been going over extremely well actually. “Trust” has a little more bounce and dance to it I think to where it’s been going off a little more but both songs have been going good so far.
Metal Exiles: Saliva added powerful bassist in Brad Stewart to the permanent lineup. I know the two of you already had a relationship because of Amaru but how easy was his transition to Saliva?
Bobby: Yeah, well, you know, Brad actually filled in for Dave about 7 or 8 years ago when Dave had a baby and was absent for a few weeks. Brad went in and filled in for him then. So, it was easy because he knew a lot of the songs already and Brad is just an all-around really great dude. Not just on bass but personality and everything. Brad could be anyone’s best friend. He’s the coolest dude. We’ve always gotten along. I’ve known him forever. He was in Shinedown and he did Fuel for the past five years.
Metal Exiles: You produced the album with the help of the extremely talented, Nolan Neal and former bandmate Damien Starkey. What made you choose them to aid in the production and how did their contributions to the production of the album enhance the outcome?
Bobby: Well, I would say it’s kind of a give credit where credit is due kind of thing. With Damien, he does a lot of TV music and stuff and I was doing a lot of that before I got in the band too. He lives here in Jacksonville so we worked on the song “Refuse to Lose”, so that’s the song that he and I did. It’s a cool song. A cool, heavy song. It’s got that ESPN sports vibe going on. Then with Nolan, I’ve known Nolan for many years. He’s extremely talented and underrated, I think. He just hasn’t really been heard that often. He’s the only guy that I’ve known that has had 3 record deals and not one song come out through the label. It’s crazy. He’s a good dude. He’s a great song writer. There were a few songs that he and I worked on and we collaborated together and he ended up producing a good bit of it as well.
Metal Exiles: Being that you have inside experience, why do you think Saliva has been so successful and continues to thrive?
Bobby: Because what else are we gonna do? There’s nothing else to do. We have no choice. I think it’s because there is a demand. People actually still come to shows and we still like playing music at shows and rocking to people. I feel like we still have something to prove every night that we go on stage. I think that these days you gotta be a good live band for people to get it. I think your music and your records are a big deal but at the end of the day, when they go see you live and you suck, it’s like “Oh wow, we know that vocalist man, he must’ve taken a hundred and ninety million takes on that record”. People think like that. They’ll be your fan and then they’ll be your worst critic immediately so you gotta be a good live band to stay alive in my opinion. That’s the way it’s always been.
Metal Exiles: Since signing with Universal, what changes have been made to create the “reenergized” impact on the direction of the band?
Bobby: We had about 4 or 5 songs that were done and our attorney had sent them to a few people and one of them was Jaime Feldman at Universal. It’s funny. I’d spoken with him years ago, when he was a Capitol, about signing the band Amaru that I was in. He had a heavy interest in that but it never happened for some reason. I don’t remember what it was. So, it was just strange when I saw who we were gonna talk to at Universal, I knew the name somehow and then we kind of figured it out on the phone. It was cool though, he told us “We like these songs. We’d like to move forward. We’re not gonna give you a million dollars or any of that shit but let’s do a deal and let’s put this thing out”. For us, we felt like he was just onboard immediately and that’s what we liked. We weren’t looking for a bunch of cash. We were just looking for a good home that has proven itself over and over again with artists and breaking artists. It was like “Do you wanna go with Coca-Cola or do you wanna go with freakin’ Diet-Rite”? That’s kind of the way it is. The last label we were with, you know, a lot of people didn’t even know we’d put a record out. We did, but it was pulled immediately because the label we were with, Rum Bum Records wasn’t really a label. It was a guy that had a shit ton of money, who gave us a shit ton of money, and he pretty much blew off every distribution call that we had set up for him. Finally, we had a manager set it all up and the record came up for two weeks or something like that. The whole thing was just a pretty messed up situation for sure but moving past that, we’re done with that and we knew we wanted somebody that knew what the hell they were doing. That meant more to us than money, meaning advance, up-front money. Once again, we have something to prove so why would we sacrifice and just take money and say fuck- it, whatever, we don’t care. We’re happy and content the way we are. No! We still have something to prove and we definitely want to be heard. We want to get over seas and do international stuff as well and I don’t think Diet-Rite can do that for us.
Metal Exiles: Your new album will be celebrated and promoted during your upcoming tour that begins in July, along with tried and true songs that made Saliva who they are today. Would you like to add anything about the album or the tour before we close today?
Bobby: Well, we’re definitely touring quite a bit for the rest of the year with that tour in August to October, which is about 3 months straight. We are stoked about it. The single hit radio. We appreciate all the fans that have stuck by the band and that continue to do so. We’ve got loyal fans and it’s definitely a pleasure making music for people who give a shit.
Metal Exiles: Well, we do for sure. Music is the heart and soul of a lot of people and gets a lot of people through a lot of bad times, especially albums such as Love, Lies, and Therapy that incorporate songs about your personal experiences. It’s a healing album. It’s about the experience and the healing process and people can thank music for that. People can thank people like you for singing those lyrics; and sing them so emotionally, and with passion and tone that draws you in. I personally appreciate it and thank you for the music and the interview today.
Band website @ http://www.saliva.com
Follow on Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/Saliva/
Follow on Twitter@ https://twitter.com/saliva
Follow on Instagram@ https://www.instagram.com/saliva/
Listen/Watch on YouTube@ https://www.youtube.com/user/SalivaVEVO