Mr. Rust - Rusty Eye & Blackie Lawless - WASP
Mr. Rust - Rusty Eye
By Rob ”Bubbs” Harris
Rusty Eye are one of the most talented up and coming bands I have had the pleasure of hearing this past decade. Their latest effort, Possessor, is a face melting attack on the ear drums that is hard to describe, and impossible to ignore. Mr. Rust of this ultra-gnarly trio took some time to answer some questions for you, our cherished readers. Enjoy!
Metal Exiles: First off, tell me how you came to Hollywood from Mexico City. Was it a difficult process to gain U.S. citizenship?
Mr. Rust: It's a good thing you asked that because people tend to be confused when it comes to that matter. Miss Randall and I, we are both American Citizens and always have been, but we were raised in Mexico City. We have dual citizenships. We decided to come to the States because we felt our music was not well suited for the Mexican music scene and because we are aiming for a more global audience.
Metal Exiles: I’m digging the shit out of Possessor. Kind of makes me wish I would have heard it before I made my best of 2009 lists. Do you feel as if this new record is the best yet?
Mr. Rust: That's a great compliment, Bubbs. We got on several "Best of 2009" Lists and the real accomplishment has been that some publications have gotten past of the usual "only signed bands allowed" mentality since it's the music that really matters. Possessor is definitely our best record yet, but that doesn't really mean we tried different things or new ideas, it's simply that we have improved everything we can from release to release. The essence of the band and the Rusty Eye sound remain the same. If you get past the DIY production on earlier releases, you can tell that Possessor has certain resemblance in essence to Rust n Roll, more than with Stendhal Syndrome which was more experimental.
Metal Exiles: When you guys first got together and made a go of it, what was your goal? You know what I mean? Some want to play just to play; some want to make some money, but nothing serious; and some want to conquer the fuckin’ world. What does Rusty Eye want?
Mr. Rust: From the very start, the idea was to be an original band. In order to achieve that we had to disconnect from the current musical consensus at the time and we had to make many sacrifices. More than world domination our goal is to be heard. And we've been fully aware that everything has to be done step by step and that "it's a long way to the top if you wanna rock‘n‘roll". We believe that profit is simply a reward for a life devoted to hard and constant work, yet, music is to us the most important thing and it is our motivation. People that are in for the money usually don't last very long and in most cases they don't even make any money whatsoever. And nowadays, there's no money in music anymore. Which is good because people that only do it for money are going to have to go away and that should clean up the current saturation and state of confusion in music, leaving space for the real artists.
Metal Exiles: You guys draw a lot of influence from a wide array of bands, which is good, considering that you hail from a hot-bed of generic cock rock. What are your feelings on the importance of spreading yourself out musically and not pigeon-holing yourself into any one style?
Mr. Rust: It's very good that you mention that whole Hollywood thing . There's an actual reason for us to be here. We indeed noticed it was a hot-bed of generic cock rock, but Hair Metal is something that's been dead for decades. There's a lot of young revivalists, has beens and what not, yet it is all generic stuff and nostalgia. We realized it was a ghost town in a way, so we feel it's the right place for us to be and do our original stuff and being completely opposite to the environment has worked very good so far. It's always been very difficult to categorize our sound because we have many influences we have and our music has always been in constant evolution. Many people have tried to label the sound: Progressive Punk Metal, Horror Thrash, etc... But the problem with this is that narrow minded people get offended with this tags, if we say we are progressive they complain because we don't sound like Opeth or Dream Theater, and there is no possible way of getting them to understand that the whole Progressive thing is wider than 2 bands. Thrash? "This doesn't sound like Megadeth", Horror? "They don't have bee-bop songs about Frankenstein", and the list goes on. It's even been hard for us to come up with a simple, brief and accurate description and it's so impossible to satisfy everyone, so to keep things simple we just say we are "Heavy Metal" and we let people figure out the rest by themselves.
Metal Exiles: I not only hear a solid heavy metal upbringing in Rusty Eye, but a pretty solid dose of punk rock as well. Would I be correct in assuming that?
Mr. Rust: Absolutely, our sound is an elaborate jigsaw puzzle with many pieces and Punk is indeed one of the elements. Especially in the early stuff.
Metal Exiles: How many people did Miss Randall have to annihilate to get to the finals of the World’s Fastest Drummer contest?
Mr. Rust: There were hundreds of participants and only a few finalists. Although she didn't win it was a very special moment, not just because she's a girl but because the people that were there practiced for a year and most of them didn't even have bands. Miss Randall just went for it without practicing or training for the event and she made it to the finals.
Metal Exiles: So, when you all sold your souls to the devil to become so good at playing your instruments, did you have to go out to some kind of crossroads type setting, or did he just come to you?
Mr. Rust: HAHAHA... it was indeed a crossroads type setting but he told us that times had changed and the only faustian pact was to become good with the playing but we had to settle for DIY hell in exchange.
Metal Exiles: There has been a good response to your records, none more so than with Possessor. Are you pleased with all the positive feedback? Does it make you more confident in the need to experiment, now that you know your fans are eating it up?
Mr. Rust: We are very pleased that people are getting into Possessor and we are very happy with the critical response so far. The most important thing is that we are being finally able to make the word of mouth effect faster through our new website rustyeye.com. Being DIY, word of mouth is pretty much the only thing we have on your side and we are very proud of putting out something good and offering something instead of the usual hype that labels offer with their "flavor of the week" marketing techniques. We expect Possessor to last and survive the test of time, like our other albums have. As far as experimenting, we've always been doing it and making our puzzle bigger adding more pieces. Our goal for the next album is to improve Possessor. That's always been our rule, every recording has to be better in every sense than the previous. it's been that way since the early demos.
Metal Exiles: “The Serial Kind” is one song in particular that I find as interesting as it is rockin’. You see, I enjoy studying serial killers and such. I don’t know why; I just like that shit. Where does your interest in the darker side of humanity come from?
Mr. Rust: We do feel attraction to that subject too. That's one of the reasons we wrote the song. The darker side of humanity has always been a constant in our lyrical content. This time around we made the Horror influences more obvious and had references to movies and such, yet the lyrical style of the band didn't change. It's always been about existentialism, which to certain degree tends to be compatible with everything horror, the darker side of humanity being one of these themes. The male vocals on the song were a guest collaboration with Alex Mitchell from the cult hard rock band Circus of Power. We had a song on the Circus of Power tribute album and Alex liked it a lot. We gave him some demos and when he showed up at the studio he brought a spoken word type of poem and it became one of the coolest moments of Possessor. And not a lot of people have figured it out but if you listen to it with headphones and you take off the right one and only listen to the left side you will hear Alex say: "My name is Richard Speck, my name is Theodore Bundy, my name is The Son of Sam, my name is Charles Manson, I am The Green River Killer, I am a victim of being born".
Metal Exiles: You were featured on an L.A. metal show hosted by Jasmine St. Claire. How weird was it, knowing that you were being interviewed by the woman that formerly held the record for world’s largest gangbang? I would have a hard time talking to her without picturing a bunch of wieners knocking her on the head.
Mr. Rust: We've know Jasmine for years now. To tell you the truth, the two times I was there I had the worst stage fright that I've ever felt ,because of the TV studio set and the cameras and all that. That was really the only thing I was thinking about. And I don't feel like that when I go on stage, but TV was different. I guess because I had never done that before.
Metal Exiles: I saw the video for “Mr. Cannibal”, and was blown away by how good it was for such an underground band. Did you have a lot of fun filming that?
Mr. Rust: It was a lot of fun. When we opened for Katatonia and Moonspell at the Whisky in 2006, Alejandro Ordoñez, a Mexican horror director was there as part of the audience. He was blown away by our performance and months later he approached us with his plans to finance and direct the video. It was all done with 16mm film, not digital cameras, it was done that way to capture the grainy look and feel of grindhouse b-movies from the late seventies and that's was the best decision because all these videos from underground bands are done with digital cameras and it feels like they don't have any texture. He wanted to make something different, and we didn't even get involved too much because we were exactly on the same track. We had the same type of ideas so we gave him complete freedom to do whatever he wanted to do.
Metal Exiles: Speaking of filming, you are offering up a visual stream of your entire new album on your website for free. That is fantastic! Despite how cool that really is, do you think that will make anybody think twice about buying the album?
Mr. Rust: I guess things have really changed with the media. Personally, I love CDs and Vinyl, I still buy them and have a massive collection. At the same time I love the portability of the iPod because it allows me to take all my collection in my pocket so I have all my CDs wherever I go. This understanding of the media allowed me to design the website that way. The whole idea is for people to know who we are. We are showcasing ourselves playing the whole album but that can only be done online in front of the computer, I'm guessing you would like to listen to it on your car or on your iPod. Besides, as soon as Possessor started getting attention it got uploaded on Russian illegal mp3 sites, mp3 forums, rapidshare and torrents. People can download illegal copies the album just by going on google and searching. And believe it or not, we thing this is the greatest thing that has ever happened to us because way more people are going to get to know us. Of course it would be great to sell all the CDs and make a second pressing, just to get the manufacturing and studio money back. Yet, while not being signed we been doing our music for free for quite a while, and some people are still buying the CDs online and on Best Buy. So this only means one thing: If 1 out of 10 buys the album and the other steal it, we only need more people to know us to make more sales and make the money we invested back. And we sure don't have anything against the whole more people knowing us.
Metal Exiles: How long did it take to shoot the entire performance of Possessor for the website?
Mr. Rust: Each member had to play the album entirely twice, with 6 cameras on each take. The final version you see only is 50 minutes long, but three movies are playing at once with 12 angles each, that's a total of 2 hours 30 minutes of footage and 36 angles. The rough footage was around 30 hours long and was edited by Miss Randall in about 3 weeks. The whole shooting only took 12 hours and was done at a showcase stage in Burbank.
Metal Exiles: I can’t find any tour dates for you guys. Are you just playing West Coast gigs right now, or is there a tour in the works?
Mr. Rust: We are only playing local shows at the moment and there is a reason for that. We'd love to go out on tour and spread our message, yet we don't have label support so we can't afford to do thing the right way, which is to tour and promote at the same time. If we tour like everyone does, just blindly and without promotion we wouldn't be able to really get our message out. So, embracing the new DIY methods of this era, we are going to do "cold touring", that means that when our web statistics show us that we have enough following in a certain place will go there and come back to our day jobs to be able to finance promotions and the trip itself. I know, it blows, but no single label has come up with any offers, except the one where they want Miss Randall to join prefab all female bands made by the label, as if we didn't have anything to offer as a band. And this is simple, if labels don't believe in us then we don't have any reason to believe in then. So we are kinda forced to the DIY methods we've been developing for years, and we are sure going to make the best of it.
Metal Exiles: Are there any plans to re-issue the older material?
Mr. Rust: So many plans, yet so little time and money. There's a big box full of CDs waiting to be released. There's a project to restore, remix and remaster all the early demos, that's around 12 releases. There's also an unfinished Stendhal Syndrome restored, re-amped and remixed version in the works, we even worked on it at Raymond Herrera's studio during the Possessor sessions. This version has as a bonus the remake of 5 songs from Rust n Roll completely re-recorded with the current line-up and were done during the Possessor sessions so they have pretty much the same sound as Possessor, we only need to add a few more vocal tracks and solos here and there that we couldn't finish because of time and budget constraints. We have so many things to do that we haven't been able to find time to finish these projects. Of course we'd love to put out some vinyl too, but we can't afford it.
Metal Exiles: Thank you for your time. Did we leave anything out? Cheers!
Mr. Rust: Thank you for such an in depth interview. I guess that's it. Thanks.
Blackie Lawless - WASP
With the recent release of “Babylon” and the upcoming launch of the U.S. Tour, I had the distinct pleasure of catching up with W.A.S.P. creator and front man Blackie Lawless. With the video for “Babylon’s Burning” hitting the wires and the upcoming video for the highly acclaimed track “Crazy” about to be lensed, this record and tour is a must for any W.A.S.P. fan and for those who need to experience a rock icon in Blackie Lawless. In this interview, Blackie opens up on the new record, upcoming U.S. tour, the band, and faith and politics.
A Metal Exiles Interview with Blackie Lawless
By William Alexander
METAL EXILES: Congratulations on another W.A.S.P. masterpiece with Babylon! There is definite magic on this one, as for me this is HEADLESS CHILDREN meets THE LAST COMMAND. Can you describe how you captured the sound of vintage WASP and the evolution of this lyrical content with this WASP lineup?
Blackie Lawless: Well, a lot of that is the band itself, because when I write what I do is I bring in some nail sketches of songs. I don’t really try to bring in finished pieces of work and the reason I do that is because I have preconceived notions of where I think the song is eventually going to go, but I do not really want to show people that before I have a chance to get their input out of it. Their interpretation of it could a lot of times be totally different than what I am thinking. If I closed them off, by showing them what I believe to be something finished you’ll shut down their creativity. Many heads are better than one if you’re working with people who are generally creative and the guys in this situation are something else when it comes to doing that. These guys are really, really clever and more often than not they usually do surprise me with what they are going to do. As a song writer it takes discipline to do that because you think to yourself I just want to get on with it. If you take a little while and let them absorb it and chew on it a little bit in rehearsal, production rehearsals are very valuable for that because it gives them a chance not only to get initially acquainted with it. Then, at the same time it gives them a chance to go away and chew on it for a few days and when you’re working with genuinely creative people the results speak for themselves.
METAL EXILES: Speaking of creativity, guitarist Doug Blair is not a newcomer to WASP given his previous tenure with the band in 1992, 2001 and then the last few years back with the band. How did his contribution to this record impact the final outcome?
BL: He may have been the single greatest contribution to the record. I mean I really haven’t listened to the record. It usually takes me about a year to go away from the record because I’m so close to it, but my initial reaction to his contribution is that it may be even greater than my own. That’s a compliment.
METAL EXILES: That’s a big time compliment. “Crazy” is one of the best WASP songs I have heard in years. Some may think this song has something to do with sexual chemistry; however I understand that is not the intent of this song. What is the real meaning behind this song and its inspiration for you personally?
BL: Its audience obsession with entertainers and it was funny because when I wrote it I was thinking from a singular point of view of what happens to the audience from my perspective, and that was my initial approach. As I kept going I started realizing it’s quite a bit more universal, as far as other entertainers. I really started thinking, let’s take it to a perspective of what I see is basically idol worship. That’s when I started thinking about Elvis Presley, Kurt Cobain at that time and what happens, that you kill them when you put them on this pedestal. While we were in the middle of the record last year, we took a break for about a month and went over to Europe to do some festivals. While we were there Michael Jackson died and I remember watching on TV. Now, where I live is very close….about 5 miles away from Neverland Ranch. Where we are is a very remote location. To get anywhere there is only one road to get from point A to point B and I have driven by his place many times and never paid attention to it. I was watching on TV and there were 1,000 people standing outside the gate. I said to myself now I know where this is and it isn’t an easy place to get to, you have to make an effort to get to this place and I’m looking at all these people and said “Wow”. I got home and there was this place I needed to go to and I had to drive by Neverland and I stopped. This was the first time I had ever stopped and I’m thinking to myself this is the place that I just saw on TV. This is my home and my neighborhood and I’m thinking there were 1,000 people standing here and now there is just nobody. It’s just me and the birds, this is such a surreal experience because like I said, there were all these people, I’m half way around the world watching this, the place that I know well and now there is nobody here. How did this all just happen? Furthermore, what happened behind the gates, because when you look at the gates one says Neverland and the other says Once Upon A Time and it’s very fitting because I’m thinking about this song Crazy and how people get to this point and it did the same thing to him that it did to Elvis. What happens is that the performer gives to the audience and in return the audience gives back to the performer and a lot of times it creates this viscous cycle and the bigger the performer gets the more that idol worship starts to take place. Effectively, what I am saying is this is not a healthy mix and you have to be very careful from an audience perspective if you’re not careful with this….you can kill this guy. This is what the song is about.
METAL EXILES: You seem to have tremendous success of having a “midas touch” with cover song selections and making them your own with previous WASP records. How did the Deep Purple classic “Burn” find itself on this record and incorporation into the meaning behind “Babylon”?
BL: Thanks man, we thought it turned out pretty good. It was kind of funny the way it happened, it was almost an afterthought. We had played around with that song a little bit when we were doing “Dominator”, but there was no room for it so we didn’t really pursue it seriously. When it came time to do this record we got to the actual mastering phase of the record and for people who don’t know what that is, it is basically your last chance gas station for sonic repair, before the record goes to the public. We got to mastering and I had all of the song titles in front of me and I’m listening to what is going on, because we’re starting to assemble the parts. For the first time I looked at all the song titles put together because prior to that when we were working on the record I wasn’t looking at the record as a whole, I was looking at the individual tracks. When I was looking at all the song titles put together I thought man there’s a lot of fire on this record. Then it made me start thinking about the burn thing, so we went back and polished it off real quick and put it on the record and I think it works well on the record.
METAL EXILES: It definitely works well on this record. I love your version….once again you made it your own!
BL: Well, there’s a drive to it. In today’s world, phonically we can do things that weren’t possible 20 or 30 years ago. There is a thump to it.
METAL EXILES: Can we expect any videos from this record?
BL: We did one for “Babylon’s Burning”. We are going to shoot “Crazy” next month before we start the U.S. tour.
METAL EXILES: On the subject of videos, there is talk of a WASP DVD coming out of a library of all your videos from past to present. Is this still forthcoming, what’s the status?
BL: Well, I couldn’t tell to be honest because a lot of that stuff I don’t have complete control over. It belongs to, a good portion of it, that is involved with the previous labels. So I really can’t give you a definitive answer.
METAL EXILES: Okay. Just curious as that would be a W.A.S.P. fan’s dream to have such a collection.
BL: Well you know we’re basically doing that in the show right now.
METAL EXILES: Right. I noted that in the back drop of your stage set.
BL: Exactly, it works incredibly well.
METAL EXILES: Continuing with the Babylon record, I have to tell you that “Godless Run” is one of my most favorite and intriguing tracks from the record. Can you describe that song’s meaning within your own life?
BL: It’s that journey we are all on. From my perspective it is what happened to me, I was born again when I was 11. I went to church throughout my teens, nobody made me go it was because I wanted to go. Then I reached the point when I got to be about 17 where I started asking a lot of questions and wasn’t getting answers. I became pretty disillusioned about the whole thing and when I left, I went as far away as you can go. I studied the occult for 3 years and was a practicing member of the occult church and so to say that I took a hard right was a gross understatement. I did that for a while and realized that I had swapped one organized religion for another and when I came to that conclusion I left that as well. I walked around for 20 years literally bumping into walls trying to figure it out. One day I had one of those little epiphanies in life and I saw something that triggered my thinking process. I started thinking to myself that I was angry and I walked around for 20 years angry at God and I realized I was not angry at God, I am angry at man and the institutionalized thinking that I had. I came to that conclusion and everything changed at that point and that’s when I started that slow journey back to the return of my faith which is where I am now. That song is really about that journey we are on trying to find out who you are, where you going, can you figure it out. I didn’t realize until a couple of years ago that if you look back throughout all the entire body of work that we’ve done from a lyrical point of view, there is one common thread that runs through all the records and it started even on the first album and it’s basically “Who am I”? I didn’t realize that, like I said until a couple of years ago. I mean it started with “I Wanna Be Somebody” as I was asking that question even then, who am I, where am I going? On Headless Children, “Can You See The Real Me” and then the next record with “The Invisible Boy” and the chorus is “Who am I”. I was constantly asking that question. Psychologists will tell you that writing lyrics is a poor man’s psychiatry provided the guy is being honest and you can get a pretty good idea what this person is thinking. That’s true with making records as well, it’s an effort to reflect who you are at the moment. You have to be truthful and if you do, it ends up becoming cheap psychiatry.
METAL EXILES: You mentioned that there was something that triggered the point when you came back to looking at your faith, if you don’t mind me asking, what specifically was that point that triggered your thought to say “I am going to return to my faith”.
BL: I can’t really go into that. There would have been serious legal ramification and it ended up being okay. I dodged a major bullet. It was something that I did not do, but I came very close to doing. It was nothing short of a miracle….let’s put it that way. It was one of those kind of things and if you understood the circumstances, was one of those life changing moments where it was like how in the world did this happen and it ended up being a very good thing. It was right in the middle of making “The Crimson Idol”.
METAL EXILES: Which I know was a big turning point for you…
BL: Yeah, everyday was a new challenge and it was a insane asylum making that record and even though that turning point happened in the middle of that record I would still go for another 7-8 years before I really started to get focused on trying to put the pieces together and make sense out of what had happened. It was not something that happened over night.
METAL EXILES: As you guys get ready to launch your US tour, we talked a little bit about the stage set with the incorporation of W.A.S.P. videos. What type of energy can the audience expect from this lineup and how many songs from the Babylon record will be incorporated into a W.A.S.P. set list?
BL: Well, the energy level comes from the philosophy we had in the beginning which is always approach the live performance like a heavy weight fight. You know you go out there to beat the audience’s brains out.
METAL EXILES: (Laugh)
METAL EXILES: Oh, I know you are serious and I love that about you that’s why I’m laughing, I love that!
BL: It’s like somebody’s going to get hurt here. You think back to where and how we started W.A.S.P. In the beginning, we were playing music that was considered barely mainstream at that time but we were from an official point of view heavily influenced by punk. It may not have looked like it, but those elements were there. The whole angry rock and roll attitude some folks may not have called it punk but for lack of a better term there was a lot of it. That’s where the energy comes from, that’s being able to address the audience in a violent way. Choosing a set list becomes a little challenging especially when we did this. What we did first was we took everything that we had, all the footage that we had or most of it anyway and assembled it all and threw it into a pot. Then we went into a rehearsal space and tried to work it out to see what would and would not work. It worked both ways. There were things that we were convinced would work that didn’t and things that we didn’t think would work that did. You don’t really know until you get in there. It’s like making a record, the component of what we were doing this time becomes different because the whole idea of visuals becomes so dominant when you’re doing something like this live that you have this huge spectacle going on behind you. It’s like a lot of times instead of 4 band members on stage you now have 8 because of the 3D effect of the film going on, and like I said it was interesting! It would be one of those kind of things that is very difficult to explain why some things would work and some things wouldn’t so it was actually a surprise to me why it worked as well as it did. One of things we noticed was we had just finished 3 months in Europe with that and the thing that I did not plan on, which ended up being really good was to watch the audience’s reaction. When we’re doing these songs, any given song….say like “Wild Child”, you see the old promo video going on, but we’re playing in synch to that video. Whatever I’m singing on screen I’m singing live simultaneously and it’s funny to watch the audience’s reaction. They’ll watch the screen for a second and then they’ll look back at me and they’ll watch the screen and look back at me and they’ll have this look on their face like they’re trying to piece it together. It’s like what came first the chicken or the egg? It has a pretty neat effect as its literally 3D come to life. That we didn’t plan on, it was just one of those extra bonuses.
METAL EXILES: Given that, and the fact that “Babylon’s Burning” video is complete and the upcoming video for “Crazy”, I’m assuming that with the arsenal of song choices you guys have to choose from, it appears these two songs will be the songs from the Babylon record that make it to the set list?
BL: That is correct.
METAL EXILES: Just yesterday, there was an announcement for 13 confirmed US shows taking you through March 25th. Will there be more venues added to the slate and how long do you plan to tour in the US in 2010?
BL: There will be about 4 weeks, by the time the full set is done, there will be about 25 shows.
METAL EXILES: I am locked in for the Columbus, Ohio show on March 5th. Ready to be blown away!
METAL EXILES: Prior to the election of Obama, you published a document on your website entitled “Read in Case of National Emergency”. I want to thank you for your stand. I was ready to start my “Blackie for President” campaign after reading this. In your opinion and as you referenced, why did our country choose to ignore the obvious socialist approach and personal associations of this person who is now our President?
BL: Well, to put it in 25 words you less, you have had 40 years indoctrination that has come from the learning institutions that have had heavy socialized agenda. It’s coming from the colleges. What has happened in those learning institutions has now had more than just a trickledown effect that has effectively contaminated society. Like the immigration debate, if you go back and look at what George Washington said, that this is a country made of laws not of men, what he is saying there is pay attention to the law; don’t pay attention to what you want as an individual because without that law we can’t function. So whenever you see an immigration debate going on I have never once ever and especially living in California, because you hear a lot, I have never once heard anybody make the statement “it’s against the law”. I have never heard anybody say that. It’s always well “this is this reason and that reason” and its like excuse me, “it’s against the law”. If we don’t want it to be against the law we can change the law. It’s not like a constitutional amendment that you literally have to get an act of congress to do. It’s far simpler than that, if we don’t like it, let’s just simply change the law, but no one has ever made that statement, at least that I have ever heard. So it’s all part of that mentality that’s let’s just do what we want. You start messing with the law a little hell starts breaking loose. That in a nutshell is basically how it started over a long period of time and eventually because of that you have the founding documents have become so diluted over time they just don’t have a lot of meaning anymore. You have a regime, some people refer to an administration but I refer to it as a regime that’s in DC right now that absolutely doesn’t care about the constitution of the United States. They would like to do away with it and rewrite one. Those are dangerous people!
METAL EXILES: Again, thank you for your stand on that. It was applauded by many as it was a big statement and one I admired.
BL: Thanks man.
METAL EXILES: Ok, a few trivia questions if cool with you…..
METAL EXILES: Proudest moment in WASP history:
BL: Wow……probably the first gold record. I remember where I was when we got it. We had just gotten home from the 1st tour and I didn’t have anywhere to live. I was in a hotel in Hollywood and I put the record right next to the TV and watched TV and watched the record and watched TV and watched the record. I kept going back and forth all night. That was a major accomplishment of life. I always tell people that when they get their first one you only ever get one first one, it doesn’t matter how many you get after that. All the ones you get after that are good too and you want those as well, but you never get the first one more than once. I remember a few years ago I was with my tour manager and we were going to this guitar center. I was just sitting out in the car waiting for him and this kid came walking out. He was probably 14 years old maybe 15 and he had a guitar in his hand, no case, just the guitar and the look on the kids face was radiating just absolute pure joy on his face. It was everything that is happiness, anticipation of what might happen to his life because of that guitar. Could he go be whatever his fantasy was…..it was all written on his face. I thought to myself I wanted to walk up to him and say stop right now, don’t go any further because nothing that you’re ever going to experience is going to better than what you’re feeling right now. I’ve stood in front of a couple of 100,000 people and it wasn’t better than what that kid was experiencing at that moment. Wow, it will never get better. It’s always those initial things, they’re always the best.
METAL EXILES: Proudest WASP production to date?
BL: Define production.
METAL EXILES: Let's go with record to date…
BL: I don’t know if I can answer that because a body of work is like a book. The records are individual chapters. So to pull one chapter out of a book and say I like this chapter more than the rest would be deceiving because one chapter leads to the rest. I know it sounds like I’m over analyzing the answer, but not really, because there’s different records for me that represent different things. It’s kind of like that is an expanded version of “what’s your favorite song”? It’s a microcosm of the biggest picture of the chapters. I don’t know if I could honestly answer that.
METAL EXILES: Great answer and tough question.
METAL EXILES: Blackie Lawless for President 2012?
BL: (laugh), No.
METAL EXILES: Seriously, looking at what you guys have done with this lineup and the phenomenal work with the Babylon record, five years from now where’s Blackie Lawless, what are you doing?
BL: Putting one foot in front of the other.
METAL EXILES: Excellent and well said. I can’t thank you enough for this opportunity to have some time to catch up with you. It was a distinct honor as well as a pleasure. I want to thank you for the monumental impact you’ve had on music, metal and the lives of others, including mine. Again, I really appreciate your time. I look forward to seeing you and the show on 3/5 in Columbus Ohio.
BL: Thank you William, and thanks for having me. I appreciate you taking the time.